DISQUS

di · 1 year ago

You guys are late for the game--the Southern Poverty Law Center outed that excuse for a human long ago.

wswaim · 1 year ago

Thanks for this. While many people know about MacDonald, what's new is this: the campus president has asked for--and now received--comments from staff, faculty and students on the prof. However, if you think the story ended with the Southern Poverty Law Center's revelation, if their fine work did as much as you'd like to see done--if you think the rest of us should now say nothing? We disagree.

The SPLC called MacDonald "the man the radical right hopes will make anti-Semitism respectable." The link to their profile is:

http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/arti...

LBRez · 1 year ago

Anti-Semitism is not just the property of the "radical right" as SPLC may seem to imply, there are plenty from the radical and non-radical left who are equally anti-Semitic. Labelling predjudice and bigotry as either left or right, liberal or conservative is wrong and paints too many identifying with any of those groups or labels with the same brush. There are liberal bigots and conservative racists, there is predjudice in the black communities, the white communities, the asian and the hispanic communities. I find the views and opinions of MacDonald to be abhorent, as I did another professor: Ward Churchill, as I do Louis Farakhan's (sp?). All espouse racist, anti-Semitic, bigoted views of our society and country. If one can find any benefit in MacDonald, et al it is that overt racism makes it easier to spot the racists and combat racism, sexism, homophobia....

wswaim · 1 year ago

That's a totally fair comment, LBRez. And I don't think there's any question that MacDonald is a conservative in the old-school meaning of that word: America was great when white non-Jewish Northern Europeans were settling the place. We'll have the time to consider more his ethnographic work in a moment, but you get the sense from it that he has no sense of what he claims is his specialty: evolutionary psychology. It's as if Northern European white communities always were and remain today monolithic and uninfluenced by outside forces--except when they capitulate to darker people. No sense of history. No sense of cultural exchange. No notion of how even these various white groups fought savagely amongst themselves--thesis, antithesis, synthesis, thesis . . . .

Fucker · 1 year ago

One might wonder what the interview process is like over at Cal State Long Beach. This is, after all, the same university that made Ron Maulana Karenga chair of their Black Studies department. Good ol' Karenga, creater of Kwanzaa (universally thumbs-upped for being an interesting collection of letters), and well-respected torturer. It's almost old news around campus that Karenga spent time in prison for imprisoning two young women...and of course there was that little thing about jabbing their mouths with a hot soldering iron and clamping their toes in a vice.

Then there was professor Aguilar (if memory serves), a convicted rapist who resigned around the time a student journalist spread his secret.

Sorry, gang. It would seem that antisemitism is a low-ranking offense at CSULB.

lbwhiner · 1 year ago

Hey, forgive me if this issue got past me. The article's writer doesn't make one important thing clear: is this McDonald guy a CSULB prof? Maybe we're all supposed to be in the know - I guess I'm the only one not - but please, Mr. Writer Man, could you please refer me to where his being on campus is noted?

wswaim · 1 year ago

Hi, lbwhiner: Sorry for the confusion, but most of the headlines refer to the fact that, yes, Dr. Kevin MacDonald is indeed a CSULB prof. --w

lbwhiner · 1 year ago

Second headline mentions colleague, but the critical first headline doesn't make his presence at CSULB clear at all. Nada.

wswaim · 1 year ago

Here's the problem: you have to read in reverse order--maybe not a good idea, but we run the blog posts in reverse chron order, newest first. The first post reads:

“FIRST POST: March 19, 2008 @18:25
WHERE’S THE HEROIC DEFENDER OF THE WHITE RACE?
A CSULB prof just wants to know”

And here’s the second, which clearly says “LB State” and “colleague”:

SECOND POST: March 20, 2008 @11:00
LB STATE PROFS CRITIQUE WRITINGS OF WHITE-NATIONALIST COLLEAGUE

And here’s the third, in which I’m the “white man”:

THIRD POST: March 20, 2008 @17:05
LB STATE PROF SAYS NO THANKS TO WHITE MAN’S OFFER TO CHAT ABOUT THE ENDANGERED WHITE MAN

rdm24 · 1 year ago

And I don’t think there’s any question that MacDonald is a conservative in the old-school meaning of that word: America was great when white non-Jewish Northern Europeans were settling the place.

The oh-so-tragic-it's-hillarious part of that statement is the fact that Jews were settling the US just slightly after the pilgrims. There were Jews fighting with the revolutionaries back in 1776! And they were already 2nd generation Americans, at least. The first congregation in what is now the United States was established in 1654.

So that nostalgia for pre-Jewish Northern European settlement these conservatives long for was over well before the Founding Fathers were even born!

Tom Historian · 1 year ago

Prior to 1800 there were almost no jews living full-time in the United States---there were at most a few hundred part-time resident jews in the major seaport towns representing mostly jewish interests based in Europe.

wswaim · 1 year ago

From "Jews in America: Our Story":

http://www.jewsinamerica.org/

"Colonial Jews were so few in number that their history could be safely ignored were it not for two things. The society they encountered in the colonies offered a welcome contrast to the intolerance and hostility that had characterized the Jewish experience in Europe over the preceding centuries. That alone made the British colonies of North America a remarkable exception in the saga of the Jewish Diaspora. Even more important, though they could not know it, was that they were preparing the way for hundreds of thousands who would later take part in one of the most dynamic and significant chapters of the Jewish story.----JOHN G. FOX"

But the point is not whether Jews settled No America in numbers great or small. As I read MacDonald, it's his assertion that they were (and remain) uniquely dangerous to white America because of group survival skills honed over millenia as a successful ethnic minority. (Part of his evidence: the Israel lobby.)

It's an old argument: that Anglo Saxons are the only group prohibited from asserting and protecting their racial identity. And there's a reason for that: it's all those black U.S. presidents. Think about it: Black American presidents from Washington to George W. Bush--and especially James Madison, Herbert Hoover, and Dwight Eisenhower? All of them hated the white man and used the power of the presidency to keep him down.

Dwight K Snider · 1 year ago

Within every good lie there are elements of the truth. And, with all respect to Robert Frost: We dance around in a circle and suppose but the truth sits in the center and knows.

lostid · 1 year ago

When you live your life as a WASP, only to find out that you are mostly jewish (and completely jewish of abiding by jewish law) and you find out that yes, the reason your greatgrandfather was snuck out of Russia because they were in fact killing jews ( a little party of death called a pogrom), and you find out later that you can't research your family's history because they changed their names to sound less jewish. It all culminates in the feeling that because I have a german last name, i can "pass" just as light skin african-americans once did. So riddle me this...are we still this concerned about "the jew factor?" are people afraid? are they curious? am i different now that i know of my heritage? and one question that i am starting to wonder...are people jealous?

Dwight K Snider · 1 year ago

You know, you only know what you know. Some people say you know more than you know. You just do not know you know more than you know. I say no, you know. Some people say you know less than you know. You just think you know, you know, more than you know. You know, I say no. You only know what you know, you know.

WSSA · 1 year ago

Check out the Women's Studies Student Association's statement regarding this prof.
http://www.csulb.edu/org/college/wssa/

Cruckdawg · 9 months ago

You're right, these white supremacists are nutcases, but what of Jewish supremicism. If you are an Arab, Jews will automatically treat you like a piece of shit, unless its a girl, and for some reason Jewish chicks want on my dick, but the Israeli men are fucked up creatures who really are bigots and everything you've heard about Arabs is usually a lie, but yes, some Pakis cut off Jewberg's head, and that's a likely outcome for a Zionist fool poking around the slums of Pakistan! Yes, the world is nasty, if you bomb from airplanes all the time expect retaliation--like getting a head chopped off. When are JEws gonna be real men and stop hiding behind America and die like men? That's about the best they could do, and of course, they will never be remebered well either! Too much bad shit!

Emiri · 7 months ago

You are out of your depth to criticise. "Explicit " has a seperate meaning in Psychology.
How can a University as an institution proclaim anything? Truth is gained through debate not shutting researchers down. The fact there is a witchhunt speaks volumes about who is closer to the truth.

Daniel Antinora · 7 months ago

Translation: Though the “implicit attitudes” of “white liberals . . . are less negative than those of conservatives,” white liberals are more hypocritical on race because they are less “explicit” than conservatives. Turns out white liberals don’t say everything they think.

They are more hypocritical because they are extremely explicit in the other direction.

I think everyone should read for themselves and see how well this other misrepresents Kevin's nuanced opinions on the subject.

stari_momak · 7 months ago

The linked statement by the Jewish Studies group is actually an excellent summary of MacDonald's position on a lot of things, although there are some silly attempts are 'guilt by association'. The thing is, the Jewish group seems to believe that advocating for White (or Euro-American if you prefer) interests is ipso facto evil. That is kind of strange coming from a group dedicated to studying its own history and, as is evidenced by their statement , pursuing what they see are their group interests.

MacDonald is quite evidently right on a lot of things. White people are being displaced (just look at the demographics of California in the last 30 years). Jewish groups and individuals were quite active in getting the immigration laws changed which started this process of demographic displacement (Google congressman Celler for some background, and see how the Anti-Defamation league attacks people like Lou Dobbs simply because they oppose illegal immigration and have the temerity to say something about it. MacDonald simply advocates whites (Euro-Americans) working to promote their interest, just as La Raza promotes Mexican and Latino interests, the ADL promotes Jewish interests, the NAACP and churches like Obama's former one in Chicago promotes black interests, and so on. Your mom, down in mostly white South Orange county, might not like people like MacDonald making waves now, but as the entire state begins to resemble Santa Ana, with some Garden Grove thrown in, I think she might change here tune.

George Taylor · 7 months ago

There is no difference between National Socialism and Zionism.

Dwight K Snider · 7 months ago

Mr. Taylor: Sorry, but there is a difference between National Socialism and Zionism. The difference is which opposition group or tribe ends-up in a death camp.

Daniel Antinora · 7 months ago

Aye.

I would argue that it is which opposition group ends up "reeducated" or "transferred" but I essentially agree and I'm what someone of the left would consider a raging anti-semite.

It is a sad fact of human nature that we are all prone to such behavior. It is generally defensive.

Kevin in HIS OWN WORDS:

I would be willing to make a quid pro quo with the organized Jewish community: If you support white ethno-nationalism in the US and provide intensive, effective support for ending and reversing the immigration policy of recent decades (i.e., something approaching the support you presently provide Israel), I would be willing to go to the wall to support Jewish ethno-nationalism in Israel, even at substantial cost for the US. The fact that a minuscule number of Jews — none of them part of the main Jewish activist organizations that have been so destructive to white ethno-nationalism — are immigration patriots and see value in America as a European civilization is certainly not a reason for someone like me to support Jewish ethno-nationalism.

Marshall Lentini · 6 months ago

Considering all the patriotard rednecks who "support Israel", the Jewish lobby and Jewish social engineering generally at the cost of their own disenfranchisement, I have no doubt that if some high profile Jews suddenly did an about-face and started supporting genuine white nationalism, we'd see plenty of white nationalists willing to welcome them in the struggle to reclaim white lands, and soon enough more white people interested in regenerating the quality of their living space (which is all white nationalism really is, at bottom). Until then it's Jews like Auster and Stix — who muddle the issue by simply being Jews, very few of whom can see past their own noses. Besides which, to abandon any article of their politicized belief system, in particular the one that justifies their social engineering — that, as MacDonald would say, strong, exclusive Gentile societies inevitably threaten Jews — is to threaten the maintenance of their entire metanarrative and its power in the minds of the masses, thus instantly weaken themselves, as they would perceive it. From a clinical perspective, the subject in denial is ever at pains keep his delusion alive, and to sacrifice any detail, to concede ground to the slightest extent is literally unthinkable for them, so closely is their ego bound to the pathology of denial; to understand this condition, which, far worse than being the pathology of a single subject, is actually the evolutionary strategy of an entire people throughout recorded history, normal people have only to reach into their memory banks for occasions where they also have produced in themselves intense feelings of anxiety and resentment over some silly idea or excuse in whose power they found themselves: imagine then how impossible it is for Jews to deal honestly with themselves about themselves. I do remember a speech by one ADL branch official, I think somewhere out West, who made the point to his listeners that militia / patriot groups "want to do business with us", so they should "reach out to them". So even when a Jew gets the idea to keep your enemy close, it's another tactic to neutralize the opposition, in that case a completely ineffectual one. In the end, it's we who are the rational men in this game, the ones willing to compromise, as MacDonald's comment shows — it's the Jews who don't compromise: Jews are the extemists.

George Taylor · 7 months ago

Hello Dwight,

I submit that observation depends on one's point of view. Further, I venture if you asked a Palestinian individual if the Gaza Strip was, at present, a death camp - he'd agree with me and state that it is. Not quite Auschwitz-Birkenau mind you, but a death camp nevertheless.

Incidentally, I don't really care if Israel slaughters every Palestinian in Gaza, and then goes on to nuke Iran, as I detest Muslims. Please don't think that I favor any other religious superstition, as I am not a believer of any kind and never have been.

That said, I reiterate: National Socialism and Zionism are very much alike, i.e., both are examples of ethnocentric states that oppress and kill their opponents. Whether such actions are good or bad depends on who wins the conflict, and afterward records history.