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  John_B

  9 months ago

  I wonder if it might be time to change the current Charter-mandated make up of the Parking Commission? As currently composed it seems heavily....skewed...in favor of area business interests.
  
  Granted, it's actual full title of "Belmont Shore Parking & Business Improvement Area Advisory Commission" might tend to explain this to a certain degree but perhaps its long past time to separate out those two...sometimes complimentary but often competing...interests.
  
  Since area parking (or, more appropriately, lack thereof) clearly impacts residents and businesses fairly equally, it would seem that a more balanced composition on something called a "Parking Commission" would prove far more representative of the stakeholders that are impacted.
  
  Hmm...note to self...research how to go about changing the City Charter...
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  wrongbeachJohn

  9 months ago

  Great writing Dave.
  
  I wonder if gary, bill, jackurt and rich whimpered off to gene's for a few stiff ones to try and wrap their brains around this one? What an ass-kicking!
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  Jack

  9 months ago

  This is a farce and I hope that someone opposes the election results.
  First thing is the names to be added to the ballot were delivered on time and somehow did not make it on the ballot. then Mike Ruehle Ended the voting 45 minutes earlier with people still coming in to vote reminds me of Chicago Machine style politics. There were well over 35 people who did not get to vote because Mike Ruehle decided to end it early even with people yelling to be allowed to vote. What the heck is that? I say the vote needs to be done again with standard elections rules enforced. Not having Pro Ruehle people doing the counting! Maybe the Librarian would be so kind as to do the counting?
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  DWR

  9 months ago

  I don't even live in Gary DeWrong's 3rd district (I reside in Suja Lowen-fraud's 2nd dis., but close enough) but it is very refreshing -- and even inspiring -- to see someone like Mike Ruehle steadfastly stand up to Long Beach's historical, corrupt politics-as-usual silliness. LB will be better off in this day and age with more steely, independent-thinking community activists like Mike R. who reject the "go-DeLong-to-get-a-DeWrong" way of thinking!
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  Mike Ruehle

  9 months ago

  Hi Jack,
  
  For two months prior to the election, the Belmont Shore Residents Association (BSRA) had asked for people to submit their names as candidates for the election. This did not occur. The election ballots were printed on September 8th for the SEPTEMBER 11th ELECTION. At 3:21 pm on September 8th, I received an email from Matt Seibert announcing his candidacy for an at-large BSRA Board position. Matt is the nephew of Parking Commission Vice Chairman Bill Lorbeer and the son-in-law of Business Association President Gene Rotondo. At 5:01 pm on September 8th, I received an email from 2nd street bar owner Tim Moriarty announcing his candidacy for BSRA Secretary. I advised both Matt and Tim that they would be added as a write-in candidate because the ballots had already been printed.
  
  Officially, the BSRA was not contacted by write-in candidates Rich Carry, Scott Dixon or Roy Hanson, to declare their candidacy. We discovered they wished to be candidates on September 9th by reading a poster on the outside of Business Association President Gene Rotondo’s Legends Bar and Restaurant. We also read about it the next day in the Grunion Gazette. However, until the night of the election, they did not officially tell the BSRA of their intent to be candidates for election.
  
  There is no set time for the election. It has been customary that the election is ended when it appears that all votes have been cast. This gives the volunteer vote counters time to finish their tally before midnight. Several last-call announcements were made. Everyone on-hand acknowledged that they had voted. It wasn’t until everything had been packed up that someone arrived and was told the voting had closed. This procedure is consistent with past elections. If you review the minutes of past elections on the BSRA website, you will find that the previous election conducted by the Parking Commission controlled BSRA actually ended at 7:45 pm. I don’t remember Parking Commission Chairman Schneiter complaining about the previous election when Parking Commissioner and BSRA Boardmember Jeanette Gavin ended the election early that night.
  
  Where did you come up with 35 people? There were 8 people turned away from the voting. The reason I know this is because PT reporter Joe Segura and I were stationed until 8:00 pm at one library door and another former BSRA Boardmember was stationed at the other Library door. I’m not sure how you came up with that number because I don’t remember seeing anyone else hanging around.
  
  Ballot counting was done by the same conscientious ladies who have volunteered to perform this thankless job for the past several years. Furthermore, they were accompanied by Long Beach Report owner and reporter Bill Pearl who posted photographs of their vote counting efforts on his website.
  
  Are there any more fabrications that you wish me to dispel?
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  Mike Ruehle

  9 months ago

  Upon reflection, I would like to make two corrections. First, Mr. Carry did indeed notify the BSRA that he intended to be a candidate. Mr. Carry’s letter stating his wish to be listed as a candidate to the SEPTEMBER 11TH BSRA election was collected from the BSRA PO box on the afternoon of September 10th. It was postmarked on September 9th. I still have the envelope with Mr. Carry’s name on it for anyone who wishes to see it.
  
  Second, it was not until the morning of September 10th (not 9th) that the BSRA discovered write-in candidates Rich Carry, Scott Dixon and Roy Hanson intent to be candidates in the election by reading a poster on the outside of Business Association President Gene Rotondo’s Legends Bar and Restaurant.
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  John_B

  9 months ago

  Well, let's see: Any change to the City Charter (including the make up of Boards and Commissions) requires approval of 2/3rds of the electorate. Thus it appears that if we want to change the composition of what's referred to as "The Parking Commission" we simply need to cause a measure to that effect to be added to the ballot of the next General Election.
  
  That sounds simple enough. Is anyone up for it? Perhaps with a more balanced Parking Commission membership, a lot of this ongoing friction could be avoided.
  
  As to the manner in which the BSRA conducts its elections; a quick review of their by-laws seems to indicate that no applicable rules were violated.
  
  If there is overwhelming dissatisfaction with the entire BSRA Executive Board, it seems that the membership should remove them. But it also seems that the only way to remove an Executive Board member is by 2/3rds vote of the remainder of the Board (assuming a quorum exists).
  
  Thus, assuming overwhelming dissatisfaction, It would seem that if 2/3rds of the BSRA membership chooses to, they could dissolve the BSRA altogether and then start over with a fresh Executive Board.
  
  I'm not seeing any evidence of overwhelming dissatisfaction among the membership, however.
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  Mike Ruehle

  9 months ago

  Hi John. How simple is it to have a measure added to the ballot to change the Parking Commission City Charter? Currently, there is nobody on the Parking Commission who represents residents. That should be changed.
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  supertrooper

  9 months ago

  As a Belmont Shore resident, I am so disgusted with DeLong!
  Early in the morning on the 11th of September, my family received an email from Councilman Gary DeLong as did most residents in the Shore. This email demeaned BSRA President Mike Ruehl, (who was running for reelection that very day), and was quite specific why Mr. Ruehl should not be reelected.
  
  Gary stated that he would not vote for Mike and admitted he found it impossible to work with him. Gary even said that the Belmont Shore residents were "underserved" because of Mike Ruehl.
  Then the Grunion Gazette was dropped at our door. Again, a DeLong attack letter against Ruehl, (tame in comparision to the former email). These letters were designed to discredit and smear the candidate, (a political tactic often used at the last minute) to further the writer's own political agenda.
  Unfortunately, it backfired big time with our family, and we feel Councilman DeLong can take much of the credit for contributing to the abrasive and litigious election.
  Delong was improper-- openly campaiging for his friends--he is suppose to be a "public servant" for the 3rd District, I would suggest thisbe brought up before the Long Beach Ethics Commissions-However, Long Beach no longer has a Ethics Commission.!!!
  
  Since Mr. DeLong cannot work with Mr. Ruehl, perhaps he should assign his Chief of Staff, Ms Anne Cramer, as a liaison between his office and the BSRA. Anne is a professional, reasonable and rational woman who would be an asset in this position.
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  Laurence B. Goodhue

  9 months ago

  The pungent odor of Gary De Long's failed 11th hour attempt to infect the BSRA election last week
  is yet another, striking example ,of how inept he is as a councilperson- notwithstanding the excellent
  job he did two weeks ago when as, Chair of the Council Budget Committee he facilitated the
  Committee's work product.with noted skill.Clearly,he was in his comfort zone and element.
  Unfortunately a council person that is comfortable only when wearing a green eye visor-et el ill
  serves the people he is supposed serve.
  
  By doing what he did. he thumbed his nose at:the well reasoned concerns of many solid
  citizens in BSRA-AND at a basic tenant of an elected representative-viz to be AN HONEST BROKER IN ISSUES CONTENTIOUS.
  
  Clearly,Gary De Long(the best of bad lot pragmatically offered to the public on election
  day two years ago)lacks the INNATE-characteristics to be a good Council Representative.It is not
  in his DNA as it were.That is why he is the most disconnected representative the district has had
  in thirty years.He and the District are ill served by the fact he is a relative stranger to most things outside of his walled Park Estates-with essentially no meaningful involvement in what makes
  the district tick as it were.
  
  THE SOLUTION:
  l.Gary De Long steps down in November.
  2.All but 3/4 of one of his staff positions will be absorbed elsewhere with the City.
  3.The Mayor,who lives in the Third District-no stranger to belt tightening -will oversee
  the District for two years.
  4.Take the Circa $700,000 that will be saved and repair 700 sidewalks.
  
  NOW FOR A QUICK UP DATE ON RECENT DEVELOPMENTS ON BUT TWO OF THE MANY OTHER MAJOR ISSUES WHERE GARY HAS PROVEN TO BE INEPT:
  
  l.Marine Stadium Fencing issue;where Gary demonstrates a clear lack of import and under
  standing of Coastal Law;marine safety;public use patterns and how such patterns develop.Gary
  of course has REFUSED to bring the matter before the City Council before it goes to the Coastal
  Commission(such matters can be brought to Council by:Council Members;Mayor or City
  Manager.)
  
  The Marine Stadium fencing issue IS NOW scheduled to be heard by the Coastal Commission
  HERE IN LONG BEACH IN NOVEMBER OF THIS YEAR!!!.-instead of on the Oregon border
  in September.
  
  2.The ILLEGAL FARMER'S WHICH GARY DE LONG AND THE PROBLEMATIC
  SPECIAL EVENTS DEPARTMENT-IMPREGNATED THE TRULY UNIQUE,PASSIVE,
  TREE SHADED ,WATER SIDE PARK AT MARINE STADIUM WITH-WILL ALSO GO BEFORE
  THE COASTAL COMMISSION-hopefully in November,
  
  It remains to be seen if Gary refuses to bring this before the City Council-as it should.
  It is a WATER SHED ISSUE.Gary seeks to authorize-COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENTS
  in City PARKS-and in the instant case-KICK OUT KIDS WHO USE SAID LOCATION FOR
  AFTER SCHOOL PLAY-as they have been doing harmlessly for half a century-to facilitate
  a Farmer's Market-so troubling that its operator(a Realtor who lives in Alamitos Heights
  will not have it in her neighborhood)-nor will Gary De Long allow it in Los Altos Park within
  his Park Estates.
  
  The above de facto up scale 99cent store-provides an interesting insight into the quality
  of stores he has in mind near HIS WOULD BE CANYON OF CONDOS AT PCH @2nd!!!!
  
  
  The operator operates three or four of these operations.An in depth story in the OC Register
  detailed the fact it takes circa 6000 people to attend and buy to become successful.That is
  twice as many people that attend the Dragon Boat Races!!!!
  
  Winding this up:Gary is about as well suited to be a City Council person-as is this individual
  to be a proof reader or spell checker!!!!!Need more be said,
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  DWR

  9 months ago

  Laurence B. Goodhue: There's much you want to shed light on but it's a shame you can't express your views in a cogent, coherent manner.
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  Mike Ruehle

  9 months ago

  BELMONT SHORE POLITICS
  
  Despite claims to the contrary, there is NOT a vast division between the majority of Belmont Shore business owners and the residents. Most business owners wish to remain neutral or are sympathetic to the concerns of their resident customers. The real problem lies with two commercial property owners who have controlled 2nd street for several years by influencing city officials and business owners while remaining in the shadows. Their goal is to implement projects that allow them to maximize the rent they collect from their business owner tenants. They could care less what impact their projects have on the quality of life for residents in Belmont Shore.
  
  Commercial property owners Bill Lorbeer and Kurt Schneiter are the majority owners of 2nd street. Furthermore, Schneiter is the newly elected (today) Chairman of the Parking Commission and Lorbeer is now the Vice Chairman. The other Commissioners on the Parking Commission are tenants of Lorbeer and Schneiter who, despite the Brown Act, are frequently pressured to support their landlord’s positions.
  
  Until last year, the Belmont Shore Residents Association (BSRA) was also controlled by Commissioners Lorbeer and Schneiter through Parking Commissioner and BSRA Boardmember Gavin. In fact, the BSRA board at that time tried to appoint Parking Commissioner Lorbeer to be President of the BSRA. That riled up the residents who, in a surprise vote, returned the BSRA to the residents last year. Since then, the BSRA has begun to question Parking Commission decisions that impact residents. Commissioners Lorbeer and Schneiter are infuriated that the BSRA has shed light on their self interest dealings and the preferential treatment they have been receiving. That is why, from the shadows, they continually attempt to discredit the BSRA and also directed the all-out effort to have us voted out of the BSRA.
  
  Gene Rotondo, the long-time President of the Business Association, is frequently the front man who pushes the agenda for Commissioners Lorbeer and Schneiter. No business person dares to oppose him for fear of being evicted by Commissioners Lorbeer or Schneiter. Furthermore, Business Association President Rotondo's daughter is married to Commissioner Lorbeer's nephew, who ran for election to the BSRA Board. Moreover, Commissioner Schneiter has been seen dating the Executive Director of the Business Association. The web is alarming.
  
  Commissioners Lorbeer and Schneiter stay in the background out of sight. They usually work through Mr. Rotondo. However, Commissioners Lorbeer and Schneiter were videotaped at the BSRA election where they were handing out fliers to residents and maligning the incumbent BSRA Boardmembers in support of their agenda to take back the BSRA. Following the election, Parking Commission Chairman Schneiter was the first to cry foul to the Press Telegram. This is from a Commissioner who doesn't even live in Belmont Shore. Don't you begin to wonder why Parking Commissioner Schneiter is sooooo concerned about a resident association election for the right to volunteer for the community?
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  wrongbeachJohn

  9 months ago

  Nice work Mike, and great comments everyone else. It is a learning experience every time I read articles and posts regarding the BSRA-BSIA-Parking Commission etc.
  Now jackurt, crawl back in your hole. Take the councilman with you.
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  John_B

  9 months ago

  >>Hi John. How simple is it to have a measure added to the ballot to change the Parking Commission City Charter? Currently, there is nobody on the Parking Commission who represents residents. That should be changed.<<
  
  Mike: While I wouldn't characterize the process as 'simple', it is 'achievable'. One could also argue that responsible self-government is not, to any degree, 'simple', but I would say that it's not only 'achievable' but 'essential'.
  
  According to to a pamphlet published by the City Clerk's Office last year, taking a local initiative to ballot takes a little over a year and the general steps are these:
  
  1. File preliminary Notice of Intent with the City Clerk. The Notice must conatin the names of 1-5 proponents and there's a $200 refundable fee to file.
  2. Publish Notice of Intent, Official Title and Summary and file proof of having done so with the City Clerk
  3. Circulate petitions and collect the necesary signatures within 180 days
  4. City Clerk certifies results to City Council
  5. The Council can has several options, depending upon the number of petition signatures collected: A. Adopt the ordinance as submitted; B. Call a Special Election or add the initiative to the next General Election ballot C. Order a report from involved City Departments (to be delivered within 30 days)
  If there's to be an election:
  6. City Clerk receives written arguments
  7. City Clerk publishes and distributes sample ballots
  8. Election is held
  
  There are a lot of behind-the-scenes procedural activities throughout this process but this is essentially how it's done.
  
  Here's my question for you, though: If the City Charter mandates that: "One (1) member is a resident of Belmont Shore..." How then is it that, as you put it, "there is nobody on the Parking Commission who represents residents."?
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  Mike Ruehle

  9 months ago

  Hi John,
  
  Actually, it was you who used the word "simple" in your quote below:
  
  "we simply need to cause a measure to that effect to be added to the ballot of the next General Election."
  
  I'm hoping that this process will be unnecessary. Maybe we can ask the Mayor and City Council to look at this issue and request city staff to make a change to the ordinance to allow residents to have a greater role on the Parking Commission.
  
  Thanks John. It is always educational reading your letters.
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  John_B

  9 months ago

  The term "simple" in my original reference was intended to modify the need to place a measure on the ballot, not to characterize the level of difficulty attendant in doing so.
  
  Sorry for the apparent lack of clarity.
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  Mike Ruehle

  9 months ago

  Parking Commission Chairman Kurt Schneiter was the first person to call all of the newspapers complaining about the BSRA election because he failed again to get his way. I know this to be true, because I was called by reporters to rebut his fabrications.
  
  To vote in the September 11th BSRA election, a person must be a resident or residential property owner in Belmont Shore. There was a person with the same last name as Parking Commissioner Schneiter who registered and voted at the BSRA election. The proof of residency this person provided was a lease on a Belmont Shore home signed on September 1st by Parking Commission Chairman Kurt Schneiter. According to nearby neighbors, this home is owned by Parking Commissioner Schneiter and has been vacant and for sale for several months.
  
  When I phoned this person to ask for him to provide a utility bill as further proof he is indeed a Belmont Shore resident, he told me, “don’t contact me again” and hung up on me.
  
  Parking Commission Chairman Kurt Schneiter owns a company called Maverick Investments. There is a person listed on the Maverick Investments website who has the same name as the person who provided the lease and registered and voted at the BSRA election as a Belmont Shore resident. The coincidence is remarkable.
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  James Blunt

  9 months ago

  Mr. Ruehle,
  
  If you spent as much time worrying about the residents of Belmont Shore, as you do trying to combat the evil villians of the Parking Commision, maybe you would be able to get something done. Grow up, you infantile whiner. What have you accomplished as the President of the BSRA? I still have your initial campain promise sheet, and as far as I can tell, you have not been able to develop enough of a consensus to move forward on any issue. Oh, wait... you did get the ATM machine at Legends turned around. Yippie, good job. FYI . . . your not the smartest guy in the room
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  wrongbeachJohn

  9 months ago

  Take a look at this, and see proof positive about the workings of the parking commission:
  
  http://www.gazettes.com/shore09252008.html
  
  Shore residents owe thanks to Kerrie Aley and Mike Ruehle. Nothing good comes from "closed-door" deals.
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  John_B

  9 months ago

  wrongbeachJohn: I agree that shore resident Kerrie Aley deserves high praise for seeing a problem with an aspect of our local government and then doing something assertive and constructive to try to fix it.
  
  While the Gazette report you cite does indeed recount potential Brown Act violations (as alleged by Aley) on the part of the Belmont Shore Parking and Business Improvement Area Advisory Commission, it also recounts something still more…to my mind…significant: That Aley was able to work within the system to get a serious challenge addressed, and not just for one of our Commissions, but ALL of them!
  
  This accomplishment is not only commendable, it is absolutely awesome! Kerrie Aley gets my nomination for the “Citizen Responsibility = Government Accountability Award” for 2008!
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  wrongbeachJohn

  9 months ago

  Yes John_B I agree but I am sure the shore commissioners are not as happy as we are.
  
  Why is it that in Belmont Shore you're a pariah if you exercise your freedom of speech?
  
  Joe Sopo, on behalf of his 4th district neighborhood, fights the proposed homeless facility and even gets 5th district councilperson schipske to change her mind. Mike Ruehle does the same, by confronting issues affecting his neighborhood, and his councilman won't even speak to him?
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  John_B

  9 months ago

  Whether the 'shore commissioners' are 'happy' about being required to more fully comply with State Law (Brown Act) and local government best practices (Legistar) is rather beside the point for me.
  
  The fact that they may not have been thus compliant before, but now will become so is most important.
  
  All of our Commissioners are political appointees. My lovely wife once served on our Board of Health & Human Services, in fact. But they are all part of our local government and, as such, they are accountable to us.
  
  To the degree that these Commissioners are not accountable to us speaks more to our willingness to permit them to behave that way, than it does to their effectiveness in serving on our behalf.
  
  If Mr. DeLong ‘won’t speak’ to Mr. Ruehle (and I don’t know if that’s true) perhaps that’s more about ego and personality, than anything else. If that’s true then perhaps Mr. Ruehle and Mr. DeLong should both try to take ego and personality out of the equation and work through others to better address the needs and desires of those they each represent.
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  Dwight K Snider

  9 months ago

  Citizen Journalist Quote of the Day: "…the Legislature finds and declares that the public commissions, boards and councils and the other public agencies in this State exist to aid in the conduct of the people's business. It is the intent of the law that their actions be taken openly and that their deliberations be conducted openly.
  
  “The people of this State do not yield their sovereignty to the agencies which serve them. The people, in delegating authority, do not give their public servants the right to decide what is good for the people to know and what is not good for them to know. The people insist on remaining informed so that they may retain control over the instruments they have created.”
  
  Source: California Government Code Section 54950-54963 – The Brown Act
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  wrongbeachJohn

  9 months ago

  Let me guess....if Mike Ruehle was on a commission with like-minded commissioners, and they were possibly violating the Brown Act etc, do you think the city would be so kind and benevolent with them too?
  
  Is Ruehle doing something we don't know about? I mean, to have a city councilman refuse to speak with you would seem to be reserved only for true whack-jobs, which I don't believe is the case here?
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  John_B

  9 months ago

  I don't see the City's current efforts to now require all Commissions to better comply with State law and local government best practices as evidence of any sort of kindness or benevolence, as you put it.
  
  I see these as efforts to apply the same standards to all City Commissions. This is a long time coming, of course, and certainly *should* have been the case all along. But since we can only live in the present and plan for the future, moaning about past mistakes seems fairly counter-productive and an immense waste of time.
  
  I can't say what Ruehle is or is not doing. Nor do I know that his assertion that DeLong will not talk to him is an accurate one. If it is accurate, then I've made what I feel to be a reasonable suggestion to address it.
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  CoastalAdvocate

  8 months ago

  Thanks for all the hard work Mr Goodhue. My Dad and I had 6 Secretaries becuase only girls took typing class in High School in his day too. I was at the end of that era. You and I need to use MS word and cut in paste, but I generally get paid for that ? I had years of essay exams on the road to my Doctorate, Masters, BS, AA, AS, and I too, get tired, the eyes blurr, and something hits me in the head with a Motadella ? Sorry...LOL
  
  But don't let anyone here offend you, I have seen you well dressed and quite effective at Council, and I thought that you were a retired lawyer, or politician, and definitely a man of substance. We haven't heard from you for a while, but I appreciate your concern for Marina Pacifica, your neighbors, your body of work and more..
  
  We cannot all be English profs ? But, we have hired a few ? And kissed a few more ? LOL !!
  
  Let's meet some day. The parents liked you too.
  
  Marina Pacifica has a fine history of noteworthy Civic leaders too.
  
  Your boat storeage idea was well received 3 of 4 District 3 Council candidates , and by the 2004-2006 , Award Winning, City Hall Staffed, Blue Chip, open to all, LAWFUL, 11 HOA focused, Los Cerritos Wetlands Study Group SEADIP revision panel, for example..
  
  As an aside, were is Marina Pacifica's pulse on Measure 'I" ? And His Majesty, 'King' DeLong ?? How about Gary's friends12 Stories, next to 8 stories acrossthe way? With telescopes all over the decks peering down into your bedrooms , and those all throughout Naples? Prepare to lose the sunrise / sunset views , and privacy, to hundreds of drawn too.
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  CoastalAdvocate

  8 months ago

  The paragraph ends with concern for all the people in Naples who will have to begin closing a bunch of windows for privacy previously , and wisely engineered into SEADIP with uniform height limits. (Oops again, scrolling this tiny box can be tricky and I proof staring at the entire page, which is a challenge here.)
  So in fairness, and to conclude, if '' His Royal Heiness ''needs all of this density and traffic, some of the best assets on our team will help him do it all around Park Estates where miles of new ' Royal' pavement, adorn the Royal Castle, and hundreds of his subjects feeholds. We see a lot of..'Short Squatty Buildings around there...Gar ? '' And here is some key criteria, YOU WON'T HAVE TO DREAM ABOUT A COASTAL PERMIT . You have that puney little office, put Chip's Hotel there ? Give 12 to DiPiazza ? Build a big old convention center over the old Mr. C's. He was on Council, the C was for 'Crow', you were in PV then, we'll call it...Mr. D's, just for you. Can we work up some renderings? Or would your people......storm the royal drawbridge too?
  
  And if you want to Entitle, or grant zoning and development rights on and around our Wetlands, entitle a big chunk of BIG REC too ? Better yet, do Rec first ? High End Retail !! We'll call that , not the Galleria', how about....'The Delongoria''
  
  More people use Bolsa Chica Wetlands than golfers would have ?, Merge big and little rec to 18 holes total, and we'll....build Millions more feet to stand empty, like the NEVER LEASED Pacific Gateways in West Seal Beach, next to poor Island Village.
  
  And stick us with the liabilities again.
  
  See ya....in Court ...we again sadly lament...
  
  It's so simple...hands off ALL of the Wetlands and structures which have material negative impacts like those in WADIP. .
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