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The District Weekly: MORE ON PRIVATIZING LONG BEACH AIRPORT

  • Casey · 1 year ago
    DeLong is famous for,(in his words) waiting to hear all the facts. Translation: Waiting to see if it might be of benefit to him.
    If he is in a position to tap into a likely investor for airport privatiztion, he may well turn to Tom Dean.
  • LB City Girl · 1 year ago
    Maybe we could trade the airport for a really cool housing tract or a nice mini mall!
  • John_B · 1 year ago
    The airport should be downsized back to the general aviation (and non jet aircraft) facility it was always intended to be. With the ever-dwindling (and eventually non-existent) exception of Boeing's C17's, there is absolutely no need for jet aircraft to be flying approaches and take off's over our fine city’s neighborhoods.

    What to do with Jet Blue and the rest?

    Simple: Construct a world-class international airport, off shore, between Catalina and the Port of Long Beach. A facility like several already in existence in Japan would solve many challenges for us such as noise, pollution, safety and income. Creating such a facility would allow us to increase national and international flights to and from Long Beach as well as travel and tourism exposure and income rather than see these constantly restricted and limited due to the landlocked and necessarily strictly-controlled current facility.

    All jet aircraft should go offshore. Our neighborhoods would become quieter and cleaner and much, much safer.

    As charming as it is, the “box” containing our current historic airport is just too small. It’s high time to start thinking outside of it!
  • middlebrow · 12 months ago
    John, would the airport "float" on the water and accept dirigible traffic?
  • John_B · 12 months ago
    Such an airport would be built on landfill, just as most of our Port, indeed almost everything currently south of Ocean boulevard, currently is.

    Such an airport would accept all sorts of aircraft...fixed wing, rotary wing and dirigible, just as our current airport does.
  • middlebrow · 12 months ago
    I was joking. In the current airline economic and general economic environment, this is far from possible. I don't think this would be possible EVER!

    Who would pay for this "Popular Science" airport?
  • John_B · 11 months ago
    With an actively engaged and intelligently informed Electorate, all things are possible, middlebrow. All that's required is that we, just once, stop arguing for our limitations.

    There are many funding options for such a facility. Local public/private investments could receive State and Federal grants, tax credits and matching funds.

    If Long Beach would, for once, simply get it's fiscal house in order, we would have budget surpluses (rather than persistent deficits) that could jump start such construction.

    Once built, such an international airport would quickly begin to pay for itself and, I believe, could easily pay off its own construction costs within, at most, a decade.

    This isn't just a "Popular Science" idea, middlebrow. It's a real-world solution to several dilemmas currently facing Long Beach and, indeed, the region.

    I would encourage everyone to look deeper, see farther and, instead of always asking "why?" trying "why not?" on for size. Instead of seeing only insurmountable obstacles, let’s start seeing challenges just begging to be overcome if, just once, we would remember how a truly great, innovative and resourceful people we can be.

    Just once.
  • middlebrow · 11 months ago
    Sorry John, you simply don't understand how airports operate, are leased and funded by airline tenants in the U.S.

    Your idea would not have the support of airlines who don't have the financial wherewithal to support this "fantasy." Don't throw a Japanese business model into the mix - it doesn't fly here.

    Not to mention the environmental havoc this plan would create.

    Wake up John!
  • John_B · 11 months ago
    Ok, middlebrow. You keep arguing for our limitations and explaining why things can't and won't be done.

    I'll keep arguing for our potential and looking for ways to challenge our society to continue to imagine, to achieve and succeed.

    At the end of the day, or of the millenium, whether on this topic or in any other area of public policy and human endeavor, we'll see which approach ultimately proves the more successful.

    Thanks very much for your input!
  • MF · 8 months ago
    Response to John Greet- A floating Airport!!!!!?????!!!! I'm sure glad you are not at the management level at the city of long beach. Expand the Airport we allready have. Its a dump right now. You like bigger government; endorsements of liberal candidates can attest to that. Considering the city has a huge spending problem, a larger updated airport would bring in alot more funds for them to spend. you should like that idea you lib. I don't know if your house resides under the flight path but mine does. I'm fine with the noise. Ever heard of double paned windows? Maybe you and Joe Sopo should buy up the contracts that jet blue has with the airport instead of the "mean" private sector taking them and turning them around. Government control has gone to far. If the private sector takes over the airport and screws up, we all can sue them; so calm down. If the city screws up its nothing but excuses and 5 dollar words. Everyone wants to fly out of LB. Let them!
  • Bill · 12 months ago
    We could have replaced the Naval Station with the airport with approaches and departures over either the ocean or oil refineries. Any idea why we didn't do that?
  • middlebrow · 12 months ago
    You waited until the last paragraph, and hid it coming out of a quote, but there it is, you used the word: expansion. You tipped your hand.

    "Expansion" is HUSH2 code for any change at the airport.

    Like changing it so that the city could keep its' promise to the airlines about the inadequate facilities. Like changing it so that passengers can get something decent to eat at the airport or to take along on their flight. Ot, like changing the city airport so that it's own gate holding room wouldn't violate the city capacity rating.

    NOBODY wants to expand the airport. People that use the airport and work at the airport though could use a reasonable facility. That wont expand the airport.

    Using the word expansion makes me think that you are using HUSH2 talking points and against being reasonable.

    And by the way... how could privatizing make it any worse. It's not like the city has run it well to this point.