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Re: HOW RACISM WORKS: McCAIN v OBAMA

Passion4Community — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 00:14:32 -0000

People in this country fail to acknowledge that racism still exist. It is alive and well and this presidental election as brought it the forefront. I applaud the district reader that posed the questions to the District Readers.

Re: HOW RACISM WORKS: McCAIN v OBAMA

Guest — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:35:25 -0000

ATTN john b!!!!

In an October 27 article, Washington Post media critic Howard Kurtz reported that Fox News Channel "now expresses regret for booking [Andy] Martin" -- who, as Media Matters for America has noted, has, among other things, referred to a judge as a "crooked, slimy Jew" and accused African-Americans of being "willing to corrupt and abuse their public offices" -- on the October 5 edition of Fox News' Hannity's America. As Media Matters documented, Sean Hannity hosted Martin -- identified by Hannity as an "Internet journalist" -- to make what Hannity called "the explosive claim that [Sen. Barack] Obama's role as a community organizer was a political staging ground perpetuated by the unrepentant terrorist William Ayers." Kurtz wrote: "[Fox News Senior Vice President Bill] Shine says Hannity disagrees with some of Martin's past comments. 'Having that guy on was a mistake,' Shine says. 'We obviously didn't do enough research on who the guest was.' " But according to searches of the Nexis and Factiva databases, Hannity himself has not expressed regret or acknowledged having made a mistake regarding Martin on either Hannity's America or Hannity & Colmes, both Fox News shows.

http://www.huffingtonpost.c...

Re: HOW RACISM WORKS: McCAIN v OBAMA

Matt — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:23:15 -0000

how could you know Obama lacks judgment, leadership, and responsibility if you have never given him a chance to show his skill?

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Kelson — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 02:00:33 -0000

Um, those may be the bullets of the platform but soundbites aren't policy ideas. Read the platform; it betrays a real perspective that is completely out of touch with what people need and what the country needs, at least if one is being generous to the GOP leaders who crafted the platform. My perspective is that they are completely dishonest and disengenious. Regardless of motive, the platform text is scummy and borderline evil.

Re: HOW RACISM WORKS: McCAIN v OBAMA

wrongbeachJohn — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 01:32:00 -0000

Fortunately, it's going to be a slaughter. It would be ineteresting to learn who "pimped" for Palin to be on the ticket, which was the last straw for "my friend".

Re: HOW RACISM WORKS: McCAIN v OBAMA

What's_in_a _name? — Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:23:34 -0000

Mr. B,
You're a gentleman and a scholar, even if we can't agree on all matters.

The careful reader will observe, that in fact, it is The District Weekly that cited McCain's military education as his only qualification for President. Mr. Goodhue would've been wise to take offense at this immediately.

And isn't this the point of the article? If a black man were to step forward with military education being his only qualification for running for president, would someone like Mr. Goodhue endorse him? My guess is no.

... US Naval Academy class rank 894. (only 5 above the bottom) Scary. A black man would never get this far in US politics with a record like that.

Re: HOW RACISM WORKS: McCAIN v OBAMA

What's_in_a _name? — Thu, 23 Oct 2008 21:54:31 -0000

Hmm, I'm sure...my husband calls her the VPILF.

Re: HOW RACISM WORKS: McCAIN v OBAMA

What's_in_a _name? — Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:25:07 -0000

One thing: John B doesn't dress as nice as Ms. Palin.

Re: HOW RACISM WORKS: McCAIN v OBAMA

Andy — Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:11:08 -0000

You and Sarah Palin have a lot in common when it comes to (not) answering questions.

Again, how did I insult you? (sorry if that's another question you won't answer)

Re: HOW RACISM WORKS: McCAIN v OBAMA

What's_in_a _name? — Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:59:48 -0000

Indeed, Will, what we have in common is that we are all hoping the most qualified person wins.

Re: HOW RACISM WORKS: McCAIN v OBAMA

What's_in_a _name? — Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:58:31 -0000

Laurence, I can only read what you've written and feel truly sad for you.

Re: HOW RACISM WORKS: McCAIN v OBAMA

Guest — Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:46:30 -0000

no need to john

"Mr. Hannity’s executive producer, John Finley, said that the program was clearly opinion and that the audience — on average 1.5 million to 2 million — knew to take it as such. “ ‘Hannity’s America’ is an opinion show — it’s a show from Sean’s perspective, which is obviously conservative,” Mr. Finley said. "

there are no "facts" there, its opinion.

just to reinforce
"Mr. Martin said he was careful not to present his theories about Mr. Obama as proven fact. "

i think the producer of the show and the main source of the information both claiming that the information is merely "opinion" negates it quite well.

Re: HOW RACISM WORKS: McCAIN v OBAMA

Andy — Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:42:04 -0000

John_B: You notably didn't answer the question.

That speaks louder than any of your extended diatribes.

Re: HOW RACISM WORKS: McCAIN v OBAMA

Guest — Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:36:51 -0000

sure will, i'll admit to getting carried away at times. i'll tone it down. sending that email.

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wswaim — Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:26:17 -0000

Howardx: I'm no fan of our new comment system, either. Can you email me (will@thedistrictweekly.com) and tell me why YOU hate it?

Also: I'd feel better if (a) we didn't attack each other personally, but assumed that we're all struggling for the truth (even when it looks like we aren't struggling very hard); and (b) if you sense that someone's really dicking you personally, here's my advice: see (a) above and assume that they were typing without thinking for just that moment, and then you handle their claims.

I know this runs totally counter to most of the animating impulses of the web, but I'd seriously feel like a failure if something I helped set up with honest intentions (to create a place where we can all talk about profound, serious stuff) turned out to be, I don't know, like a firing range. And look at it this way: with a few exceptions on the far, far fringes, we're all people who represent a tiny fraction of the country: people who read and think seriously about the future of the country. We have that in common, right?

Having said that, can I just say that, Laurence, you scare me. Don't know if that was your intention. But that's what happened. Your lead response here is so nearly devoid of (what's that called?) fact that there's just nothing to respond to but the nightmare you've created for yourself, which, seriously, yikes. I get this, though: if you really believed half of what you write about military and political service, you'd have voted for Al Gore and John Kerry.

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Guest — Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:03:33 -0000

"Mr. Hannity said that Mr. Obama did not respond to a request for comment. Still, the program presented no opposing viewpoint to the program’s thesis: that, in Mr. Hannity’s words, “Obama’s list of friends reads like a history of radicalism.”

Mr. Hannity’s executive producer, John Finley, said that the program was clearly opinion and that the audience — on average 1.5 million to 2 million — knew to take it as such. “ ‘Hannity’s America’ is an opinion show — it’s a show from Sean’s perspective, which is obviously conservative,” Mr. Finley said.

Speaking of Mr. Martin, he added, “It’s one man’s opinion, one of many that was expressed on the show.”

Mr. Martin said he was careful not to present his theories about Mr. Obama as proven fact.

“That is my opinion — expert opinion — if you will,” Mr. Martin said of his commentary "
http://www.nytimes.com/2008...

even fox doesnt claim they are "facts" john.

heres something else you might ponder on about andy martin,
"For good measure, Mr. Martin, who made a failed bid to run on the Republican line in the 2004 race for a Senate seat from Illinois that Mr. Obama won"

i can smell the credibility from here.

Re: HOW RACISM WORKS: McCAIN v OBAMA

Guest — Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:28:24 -0000

OT
this new comment system sucks ass.

Re: HOW RACISM WORKS: McCAIN v OBAMA

Guest — Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:23:43 -0000

so you find hannity's explanation of why he supports known anti semite and liar andy martin to be "weak and far from sufficient" but you continue to push his smears of obama. my original assessment of you as just another gop drone more concerned about party than country was correct. maybe you ought to come out of the bunker and take a look at some polls john, your smears of obama arent going to make a bit of difference, america has rejected them.

Re: HOW RACISM WORKS: McCAIN v OBAMA

Kelson — Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:21:48 -0000

Um, to my knowledge Sean Hannity isn't the one running for president.

Watching the stump speeches between the two major party candidates, it pretty much looks and sounds like a contest between and educated man and a clown.

It's up to you to choose between those. Some opt for a clown who served in the military more than three decades ago [whose experience may or may not be relevant to today's military needs]. Some prefer to describe people who go to college as "hiding" and that is surely one interesting perspective. Some prefer candidates who associate themselves with angry language from angry preachers like Falwell as opposed to Wright and that is also an interesting perspective given the history of this country. Every four years there is an oscillating debate over whether somebody's military service does or does not disqualify (or qualify) a candidate and whether somebody's executive service (or lack thereof) qualifies or disqualifies a candidate. The answers to those questions are consistently a moving target for the rabid right and the answers to those questions are, well, less fluid for those of us on the left. Some would like a candidate merely to show good judgement but it also seems clear that there are folks who want to see such judgements adhered to in the face of new and changing information.

So since I have pretty much disagreed with nearly everything McCain has said --- when I can understand what he is trying to say --- there's zero chance that I (and many of us) would pull the lever for him or any other Republican, ever. Too often people make the election about the candidate when, in fact, after the dust settles Congress makes the laws [e.g. you will see neither candidate's health care plan enacted but you will see some sausage come out of Congress based on how all the lobbying shakes down]. Elections are, 100%, always about the party platform and the folks who have been more-or-less announced to become cabinet level associates of the Executive.
And since a good part of the Republican party platform is actually reprehensible, my preference would be to never see any one hold office who would subscribe to that platform.

Re: HOW RACISM WORKS: McCAIN v OBAMA

Andy — Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:13:07 -0000

John_B: Did you vote for Bush twice, or not?

If so, then I'd say you're not exactly qualified to tell me that my gut feeling is wrong because, so far, it hasn't been.

And I guess you feel "right-wing" is a slur, because that's the only epithet I used in addressing your post.

As for the NTU, I don't share their fundamental philosophy on taxation, so a "0" rating is, in fact, irrelevant to me from their organization. Your *facts* are rather subjective, after all.

Re: HOW RACISM WORKS: McCAIN v OBAMA

Guest — Thu, 23 Oct 2008 16:18:52 -0000

so despite being shown copious evidence of hannity's support of the anti semitic andy martin, john b still cant quit him, does john b's support of hannity mean he himself is anti semitic? theres some associations there that john needs to address.

Re: HOW RACISM WORKS: McCAIN v OBAMA

Andy — Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:31:00 -0000

Frankly, I do not want anyone who doesn't have a wide variety of experiences, whether it includes military service or not.

We could get into a link war back and forth--Mr. Goodhue's illterate screed and Mr. John_B's right-wing report card (Cal "Angry Black Women" Thomas?) aside--but there are few "must-haves" other than broad life experience in and out of government, world-class level education, and temperament for leading, negotiating, and stating and standing for your convictions that qualifies a person to be president.

Do I agree with Mr. Obama on every issue? No. (Gun control, for example). Do I think he's compromised some of his principles to get elected? Yes. It comes down to a fundamental gut feeling based on words and deeds that delivers the vote. I believe that Mr. Obama will be best able to build an organization that wisely addresses the issues facing us.

Mr. Obama and Mr. Biden clearly outshine Mr. McCain in these areas for me, and Ms. Palin is still trying to figure out how to do expense reports.

Re: HOW RACISM WORKS: McCAIN v OBAMA

Guest — Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:30:27 -0000

obama will help us get rid of the breakwater!

VOTE OBAMA!!

Re: HOW RACISM WORKS: McCAIN v OBAMA

Laurence B. Goodhue — Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:53:42 -0000

Only to the indecent and ungrateful who are so rabid in their distain for this country that
they are blind to the obvious.In the instant case-it was not suggested that serving in the
military is enough to qualify one to run for president.However,when said services is combined with a solid record in Congress and compared with someone that hid behind the
walls of ivy and in the pews of the Reverend Wright-only a diseased or undeveloped mind
would select the latter

Re: HOW RACISM WORKS: McCAIN v OBAMA

What's_in_a _name? — Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:12:10 -0000

http://www.forandagainst.co...

http://www.usvetdsp.com/jan...

http://thinkprogress.org/20...